Quote# 96337

You keep repeating the Christian principle of
"doing unto others as we would have them do unto us. ”
its not a christian principle it is a Chinese one, and Mozi and Laozi made those conclusions in strictly secular contexts

[Dr. Lisle: We have already covered this. Only the Christian worldview can make sense of objective morality. These other systems that you have proposed only motivate people to behave when they are being watched, and only if it will benefit them in the future. That's not morality.]

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle's Blog 26 Comments [9/2/2013 4:27:41 AM]
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Quote# 247

HINT: The reason this has become a problem in London -- where born and bred Brits are starting to blow themselves up is because we didn't nuke Damascus 30 years ago. The plague of Islam is continuing to spread -- and will continue to do so until drastic actions are taken to exterminate this disease.

Your post proves the opposite of what you'd hoped to prove -- the British citizenship of these bombers shows the disease is spreading and that the cowardice that didn't bomb Damascus yesterday is directly responsible for the Islamic bombing of London on 7/7.

Refusing to fight this in Damascus means we must now fight it in London.

Your policy has failed.

Enjoy the carnage.
You've earned it.

Mad_Gerbil, Theology Web 3 Comments [7/15/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 53889

Why does God create children who will be kidnapped, raped and tortured and then murdered by a serial killer?

Because God will do as he please with His creation and has a purpose in even these things.

*that post is a small goldmine of this stuff*

javier, Flog a Blog! 52 Comments [12/10/2008 8:01:15 PM]
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Quote# 139883

Now let’s go to Alba Hodsoll, another so-called pedovore artist whom I accidentally found her work on one of Ray Chandler’s Instagram. She must be in Ray Chandler’s cycle. To know about Ray Chandler who was a sex slave in Jeffry Epstein Island click here.



No, you are not wrong. These are baby hearts and we are looking at a sandwich. I am going to write an extensive article on Planned Parenthood with videos and decoded secrets but Planned Parenthood hearts are as tiny as an unborn baby while these hearts must belong to 4-5-month-old born babies. Where do they come from? Is Planned Parenthood somehow involved in obtaining small babies body parts too?

Edward Morgan, Prepare for Change 13 Comments [8/18/2018 3:25:35 AM]
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Quote# 39561

[Evolution vs. Intelligent Design: Which has the better argument?]

put it this way, ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution and felt naked and why is it that we wear clothes and not live and walk around like the animals in bare skin.

gcococ1, Yahoo Answers 57 Comments [5/19/2008 5:32:07 PM]
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Quote# 17245

Let me explain it real sloooooooooooooooooowly:
1. YOU ARE GONNA DIE!!!!!! Surprise!
2. When you die, God will judge you.
3. If you don't believe in Him, God will send you to Hell.

This. is. not. complicated. Does anyone spot any gaping holes in my logic here? I thought not. So, given the inescapable logic of the situation:

WHY DO YOU WANT TO BURN???

Please Please Please just hear this and come to Jesus right now. I beg you. You might not have much time left.

Huh?, CARM 74 Comments [11/20/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 104064

[On same-sex marriage]

Wootsauce: Canada? You use Canada, where one can be jailed for calling homosexuality a sin, as your example for "freedom and equality"??

jillybean: I do know something about this. You are free in Canada to say that the Bible teaches homosexual conduct is a sin. You are not free to use language that seems intended to incite hatred and violence towards homosexuals.

Wootsauce: Slippery slope there.

Wootsauce, BarbWire 22 Comments [10/13/2014 3:06:44 AM]
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Quote# 121648

GOD not only says that all souls are HIS, but in Numbers 16:22 Moses and Aaron said HE is “the GOD of the spirits of ALL flesh.” In Jeremiah 32:27 GOD says, “I am the LORD, the GOD of ALL flesh.” GOD, in Jeremiah 1:5, told Jeremiah, “Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee.”

How could anyone have the audacity to destroy the soul, the spirit, and the flesh of any human baby that GOD knew before they were formed in the belly, let alone before they came out of the womb, even in the case of rape?

The real law is the law of GOD.1 Let us see what the law of GOD says.

“If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die [physically and Spiritually], both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed [engaged] unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her [rapes her], and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried [cried for help because she didn’t want to be raped], and there was none to save her [from being raped]. If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her [rapes her], and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away [divorce her] all his days” (Deuteronomy 22:22-29).

When I first saw this law I thought, “How could a woman want to marry any man that raped her?” Then immediately, my mind went back to that day forty-eight years ago in a lawyer’s office in Beverly Hills where I first became acquainted with GOD. HE commanded me to tell the people in that office that JESUS CHRIST was coming back to earth again. GOD’S SPIRIT was upon me with such power, and I began reasoning with HIM, saying, “LORD, I’ll tell them tomorrow. I’ll call them on the phone. I’ll send them cables, telegrams, but don’t make me tell them now.” The office was filled with an entourage of my people and other people from the movie industry. I thought they would have me committed to an insane asylum if I did what HE was telling me to say and do. So GOD started pulling my spirit, my soul, in and out of my body, and let me know that if I didn’t say what HE was telling me to say, I would die right then and there. There wouldn’t be anything I could do to stop HIM from killing me. At the same time, I was feeling how powerful and intelligent HE is, and knew that no one could stop HIM from doing whatever HE wanted to do. Before this happened to me, I never believed in GOD or JESUS. I was considered the best advertising agent in any kind of business including show business. From that day forth, I quit being an advertising agent and began seeking the LORD. I have no problem believing anything that GOD said or says.

Tony Alamo, Tony Alamo Christian Ministries 9 Comments [9/17/2016 3:51:47 PM]
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Quote# 89523

[In response to Expedia announcing their support for marriage equality in Washington.]

The homosexuals are still riding on the backs of black slaves.

They're equating their anal fetish to the struggle for black freedom.

If I were a black member of society, I'd be furious over how the homosexuals are minimizing the blacks past into an equivalent of a vile sex act.

This is why business believe they have to cave to the homosexuals. If blacks have a right to be be equal because of their race, homosexuals have a right to be equal because they want kinky sex. The two are exactly the same to a homosexual.

concerned about politics, Freerepublic 32 Comments [9/14/2012 3:10:04 AM]
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Quote# 114758

I now know what happened at Charisma and I will not be coming back. Read my email to and from them here;

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM,

Charisma, can I (afchief) have permission to post again?

Hello afchief

We had removed your account in an attempt to try and bring some civility back into our comments section. You were only one of multiple people removed in this effort. It worked. Although there is still bickering and disagreeable people the level of vitriol is down and the number of conversions that remain civil through to the end is up significantly.

You had a tendency to pick fights, inject yourself into other people's conversions (degrading them into arguments) and belittling or mock people who you didn't agree with. You were almost always in "attack mode" and that's not what we're looking for. If you only posted once in while we might have been able to ignore it but you were so prolific in your posting that you often seemed to take over the comments section of some articles, driving away people who just wanted to have a real or civil conversion without being attacked.

The thought of restoring your access makes me (and the other moderators) nervous. We don't want to give up the gains we've made our community. We are developing other steps to further stress the need for civility.

This is one of those situations where if we were to restore your access it would require that you make a commitment to change how you act and treat others on our sites. This would require not only that you don't do what you did before but also that you don't let others drag you down (ie, if someone you disagree with tries to pick a fight, you don't bite, you take the higher ground, even if that means ending/ignoring the conversion). Only you know if you can make that sort of change and only you can decide if it's worth it.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:28 PM,

Civility? You mean being politically correct? Was Jesus civil when He said "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father." John 8:44? Was Jesus civil when He said “ “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

Does speaking the truth scare you Mr Glaser? Apparently so! You don't want lies confronted. You do not want sin confronted. You want to be politically correct. How sad! Paul said in Ephesians 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; I guess to be "civil" we are to embrace, encourage, and love those who practice such fruitless acts and not expose them. Is this what Charisma is all about?

I was told a long time ago by several Spirit filled Christians to get off of your website because of false doctrine. I truly now see why.

In closing do not restore my account.

In Jesus, afchief

Hello afchief,

Your reply is a perfect example of why you're not mature enough to return to our community. I'll gladly keep you banned. I hope that one day you'll find peace.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

Mature enough? Wow! Your site truly has become politically correct and afraid of the truth. The proof is in the pudding by who you allow to post on your site. Having people like Mensa Member who has changed his name several times on your site and claims to be a Christian but lies continuously shows me that you have a double standard.

Last month myself, Ax2root, Adam in Christ and another poster met on another site and discussed the reasons we were banned. We came to the conclusion that we are the few that do not separate our faith from anything and are not afraid to speak out about it. It is quite apparent Mr Glaser you are. You and your staff are more concerned about being politically correct then standing for truth and righteousness as evident of your previous email. Sad!

No I have no desire to come back to a website where you are not allowed to speak truth. Where you are not allowed confront lies and sin. It is quite apparent we live in a time where deception has never been more prevalent.

In Jesus, afchief

afchief, End of the American Dream  38 Comments [11/25/2015 4:01:58 AM]
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Quote# 53563

and 80% of icelanders believe in elves. guess atheism and stupidity go hand in hand!

moose1234, city-data.com 74 Comments [12/2/2008 9:33:13 PM]
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Quote# 4227

Also if God doesn't exist why does everyone go with B.C which means before christ, surely if God does not exist then Jesus does not either.

beetlequeendiva, Christian Forums 11 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24574

myspaceinvader | May 01, 2007
Perhaps you haven't noticed MakeAFist.. An Atheist brain is laidened with absolute filth and garbage.
So in order to communicate with them and for them to understand anything you must use filth, and then subtely add a few intelligent words inbetween otherwise the message doesn't quite sink into their heads. Theres a reason behind it!
Just listen to the cheap insults that Dawkins throws and watch how the crowds all cheer in orgasmic rapture and you'll see what I mean.
Sure do unto others, I'm not expecting any atheists here to start respecting me if I am loving towards them. I know speaking as a former Atheist no matter how kindly you speak they have no respect for religious beliefs whatsoever. They would sooner smite at all religious figures and dismiss them all as false than ever amounting to any level of understanding.
In other words they are complete assholes.

myspaceinvader, YouTube 41 Comments [5/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 6528

Demons.. are they real?... I'd really love to hear from Atheists on this one, and also get some help from brothers and sisters who can help back me up. I wanted to start this thread because to me, the presence of demons is one of the most obvious proofs to show that Christianity is no lie...I have an evangelist friend... God gave him the power to cast out demons, which he did whenever he could, and he has so many amazing stories about people he came across. Some were healed.. some were converted from Satanism... my friend and another woman had a prayer meeting, and out of the blue, a really low man's voice started coming out of my friend's stomach... Our evangelist friend talked to this thing, binded it in the name of Jesus, and asked it it's name. It said 'fear', and as the other woman present got freaked out they couldn't get it to leave...As I am sure my friend isn't lying, and there are thousands of these stories happen every day, we can assume people at least see and hear these things. But is it really a mass delusion? Was Jesus having delusions too? After all, if he had failed to do miracles then I doubt so many would have followed him... In a world of logic, what is the explanation for these illogical things?

AsburyJuke, Christian Forums 16 Comments [3/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 123221

What is a woman?
A woman, as we have already said, is, in contrast to a man, a human being who does not work. One might leave it at that, for there isn't much more to say about her, were the basic concept of "human being" not so general and inexact in embracing both "man" and "woman."

Life offers the human being two choices: animal existence - a lower order of life - and spiritual existence. In general, a woman will choose the former and opt for physical well-being, a place to breed, and an opportunity to indulge unhindered in her breeding habits. At birth, men and women have the same intellectual potential; there is no primary difference in intelligence between the sexes. It is also a fact that potential left to stagnate will atrophy. Women do not use their mental capacity: they deliberately let it disintegrate. After a few years of sporadic training, they revert to a state of irreversible mental torpor.

Why do women not make use of their intellectual potential? For the simple reason that they do not need to. It is not essential for their survival. Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society.

By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes. Or, to put it another way they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals. The minute a woman has made this decision she ceases to develop her mind. She may, of course, go on to obtain various degrees and diplomas. These increase her market value in the eyes of men, for men believe that a woman who can recite things by heart must also know and understand them. But any real possibility of communication between the sexes ceases at this point. Their paths are divided forever.

One of man's worst mistakes, and one he makes over and over again, is to assume that woman is his equal, that is, a human being of equal mental and emotional capacity. A man may observe his wife, listen to her, judge her feelings by her reactions, but in all this he is judging her only by outward symptoms, for he is using his own scale of values.

He knows what he would say, think and do if he were in her shoes. When he looks at her depressing ways of doing things, he assumes there must be something that prevents her from doing what he himself would have done in her position. This is natural, as he considers himself the measure of all things - and rightly so - if humans define themselves as beings capable of abstract thought. When a man sees a woman spending hours cooking, washing dishes and cleaning, it never occurs to him that such jobs probably make her quite happy since they are exactly at her mental level. Instead he assumes that this drudgery prevents her from doing all those things which he himself considers worthwhile and desirable.

Therefore, he invents automatic dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, and precooked foods to make her life easier and to allow her to lead the dream life he himself longs for.

But he will be disappointed: rarely using the time she has gained to take an active interest in history, politics or astrophysics, woman bakes cakes, irons underclothes and makes ruffles and frills for blouses or, if she is especially enterprising, covers her bathroom with flower decals. It is natural, therefore, that man assumes such things to be the essential ingredients of gracious living. This idea must have been instilled by woman, as he himself really doesn't mind if his cakes are store bought, his underpants unironed, or his bathroom devoid of flowery patterns. He invents cake mixes to liberate her from drudgery, automatic irons and toilet-paper holders already covered with flower patterns to make gracious living easier to attain - and still women take no interest in serious literature, politics, or the conquest of the universe. For her, this newfound leisure comes just at the right moment. At last she can take in herself: since a longing after intellectual achievements is alien to her, she concentrates on her external appearance.

Yet even this occupation is acceptable to man. He really loves his wife and wants her happiness more than anything in the world. Therefore he produces non-smear lipstick, waterproof mascara, home permanents, no-iron frilly blouses and throwaway underwear - always with the same aim in view. In the end, he hopes, this being whose needs seem to him so much sensitive, so much more refined, will gain freedom - freedom to achieve in her life the ideal state which is his dream: to live the life of a free man.

Then he sits back and waits. Finally, as woman does not come to him of her own free will, he tries to tempt her into his world. He offers her coeducation, so that she is accustomed to his way of life from childhood. With all sorts of excuses, he gets her to attend his universities and initiates her into the mysteries of his own discoveries, hoping to awaken her interest in the wonders of life. He gives her access to the very last male strongholds, thereby relinquishing traditions sacred to him by encouraging her to make use of her right to vote in the hope she will change the systems of government he has managed to think up so laboriously, according to her own ideas. Possibly he even hopes that she will be able to create peace in the world - for, in his opinion, women are a pacifist influence.

In all this he is so determined and pigheaded that he fails to see what a fool he is making of himself - ridiculous by his own standards, not those of women, who have absolutely no sense of humor.

DefenseOfTheRest, /r/incels 32 Comments [12/23/2016 4:30:53 PM]
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Quote# 80850

A collective brain is what you'd have if human communication prior to the incident associated with the tower of Babel were basically telepathic (which is one interpretation of Julian Jayne's findings), if Jaynes were correct in thinking that consciousness as we know it did not exist 4000 years ago, and if consciousness in those days were basically general rather than individual.

wendy1946, Free Republic 55 Comments [4/26/2011 5:28:10 AM]
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Quote# 123916

Being a woman or a man will not be socially acceptable in 50 year. It will be either you are transgender or you are not human who deserves basic human rights.

Whitney McLaren, Facebook 21 Comments [1/26/2017 2:34:42 AM]
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Quote# 8160

but do check out Piltdown Man, Nebraska Man, peppered moths, whale evolution & horse evolution for just some of the longstanding frauds perpetrated to detroy faith in God's Word & make folk gullible to men's lies

It is most sinister indeed that the evo-loopy establishment ruthlessly censor all criticism of neo-Darwinism & all debate @ the overwhelming evidence for Inelligent Design

MrVersatile48, 123 Christian Forums 13 Comments [10/20/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 136211

I don’t think the classic age of dinosaurs was 75 to 110 million years in the past, but rather just before the Flood.

After the Flood, dino kind after dino kind would probably go extinct by human hunting (cryptozoology gives far more chances to meet a Sauropod or a Pterodactyl than a Stegosaur or Ancylosaur … OK, perhaps Stegosaurs survived as well … pictorial evidence).

In the case of pre-Flood atmosphere, it was probably richer in oxygen, so it would have required som getting used to. Obviously, the Ark served as a pressure chamber between pre-Flood and post-Flood world, while air pressure and oxygen content changed above the waters.

Hans-Georg Lundahl, Quora 22 Comments [1/25/2018 2:50:45 AM]
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Quote# 46537

Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on its surface. As time passed, aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab. Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky, and formed itself into the words "Coca Cola 12 fluid ounces."

Of course, my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If it is designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident, is to move into an intellectual free zone.

The Atheist Test, The theory of evolution of the Coca Cola can. 39 Comments [9/2/2008 8:26:30 PM]
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